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. >> a special is pot marijuana's latest obsession? we have the latest news. tmz is reporting that kim and kanye have named their baby north, northwest. i kid you not. anderson cooper starts right now. >> piers, it's 10:00 on the east coast, george zimmerman will be learning his fate. he says he doesn't have a problem with it. the question is should the court? we talk about that. later, the best story you will see all day, no doubt about i. he came to hear his first words. >> he loves you. daddy loves you. >> unable to hear his entire life. a remarkable moment caught on tape. we talk about the revolutionary device that made his smile possible. we gen with the oldest organization the ex-gay movement
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shutting his doors and apologizing, saying the world view has been quote honoring towards our fellow human beings or biblical. exodus international promoted what is often called repairtive therapy based on interpretations of christian teaching, they told people they could change their sexual orientation. the exodus began in the mid- to 1970s, one of the founding members renounced it at the end of that decade, he was, in fact, still gay. exodus continued to claim it could help people get over their same sex attractions. allen chambers is now personally apologizing to gay people. >> i'm sorry for the pain and the hurt that many of you have speernszed. i'm sorry that some of you spent years working through shame and guilt you felt when your attractions didn't change. i'm sorry we promoted sexual orientation theories that stigmatize parents.
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>> that's allen chambers in a documentary hosted by lisa ling who joins us tonight. he says, quote, i am profoundly sorry that many have walked away from their faith and that some have chose on the end tear lives. yesterday, exodus, international, officially closed up shop. we will talk to lisa ling in a moment and first we want to tell you what exodus has been telling people for decades now. back when they were saying repairtive therapy could work. >> men, women, looking for a way to exercise homosexuality here at a gathering in phoenix called love one out. -- "love won out." >> they're searching for more information. >> christian ministries offer referrals to christian ministry programs. >> have a good day now. >> but more than 120 local branches in north america,
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exodus international calls itself the world's largest gay service. >> you got to have healthy expectations. >> exodus president says his own sexuality followed a long and difficult path. how did you do it? >> it's not like a light switch. i didn't flip it on, flip it off. it was years of work. >> not everyone is of the same result. >> sean, when did you realize you were gay? >> at the age of 6 i realized i was different from other boys. it wasn't until later on that i actually associated the word "guy" with that. >> growing up gay in illinois wasn't easy for sean o'donell. his catholic parents were loving. but the kids at school were merciless. >> i hated myself. >> at age 10 he was born again. >> how important was religion in your life? >> extremely important. it was the path in my life. i when to the church four, five
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times a week. i was always at church. i was vivendi in mission trips, study groups, prayer groups. >> if you are gay, are you going to held? >> right. >> he started cutting himself, he attempted suicide and finally at 18, he came out to his pastor. >> did you feel like he was angry at you? >> no. no. he was very compassionate. with the understanding that i needed help. >> his pastor referred him to therapy at a local ex-gay organization. >> i thought i'd go a couple days without being attracted to other men. then i'd have a secretary of state e sexual slip-up. i thought i'm failing again. >> reporter: five years into therapy, sean hit another low point and again tried to kill himself. desperate, he moved to california and joined a live-in program for gay men trying to become straight. >> we had a work environment. after we got home, we had dinner together. we didn't go places alone other than to work or back.
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we were alwaysfuls groups of two or three. sundays we when to the church together. he had curfews. >> sean says he was totally committed to the program. >> my first year into it, i felt great. i thought, oh, i'm going to make it. you know, this is all what i needed, you know, and then i had a slip with one of the guys in the house. >> the next day, sean drove into san francisco and had a one-night stand with a man. >> you know, that was i. i was done. i had given it the good old college try. i decided that i was going to come out again. >> this is kind of bluvenlt i am curious, do you like girls now? >> i love my wife. i am attracted to my wife. we have been married for nine years. >> are any feelings towards men still when you? do you think it can come out again in some way? >> again, i don't think i will ever be as though i never was. certainly, i'm human, i could be tempt bid a homosexual thought i could find myself --
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>> that doesn't go away? >> it hasn't gone away 100% for me. >> do you think programs like exodus can work for some people? >> no. >> sean is working at a high school science teacher. he has been living as an openly gay man for six years. >> joining me is lisa ling who spoke with allen chambers for our america special on the own network. did it surprise you they shut it down? >> id did surprise me when he said he wanted to apologize to all gay people and all people harmed by exodus. it was essentially acknowledging that thousands of people have had their lives severely damaged by exodus, which becked the question, well, then what now? last year, they stopped conducting repairative therapy. this years ago he wants to
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respond to people, what now? we witnessed what now last night. >> but what does it actually mean? i mean, he's still not saying being gay, is he saying being gay is okay? >> so, although allen won't directly say it, he still believes that homosexuality is a sivenlt he doesn't want to be a part of an organization that tries to convert people or tries to cure people of homosexuality. he, in fact, says it's not possible. he. as gary tuckman's report indicated still says that he has same sex attraction as does 99.9% of the people who have gone through their programs. >> that's scary, a number of people call themselves ex-gay. the more you talk to them, they will acknowledge they still have the attraction, as you said, allen does. they still have the thoughts, they're just forcing themselves or trying to train themselves not to act on them. they're repressing them, not act on them. >> that's right. to an extent, that's how allen is living now.
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i firmly believe he has a beautiful marriage with his wife leslie and their. he says he still continues to have same sex attraction. >> i have done a lot of these interviews, clearly, i'm gay, but i don't try to force my opinion on, you know, somebody wants to, you know, thinks they're unhappy being gay and wants to change, if it works for them or doesn't. >> right. >> it seems like there are a lot of meme in your documentary, a lot of people say they have been harmed by this type of therapy. i want to show another clip, a guy guiding gays. there is a guy sean an ex-gay survivor who has come out, tried to change, has not and he's talking to allen about how much damage he feels exodus is doing. >> all the people had tried to change. >> exactly. >> let's hear from him. >> when i left exodus, i had joaned the military and i was just at my end, i didn't realize i was going into such a deep pit
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of dispair and apger. i went to, my friend had a loaded gun in his closet. it felt so happy about dying tvlgs like opening a christmas present. that's how i felt. i went over to the closetment i stood there and prayed that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times. i said, good, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it, but something from the outside, allen, told me not to take my life and i said, good, why won't you change me? it said to me, because there's nothing that i need to change about you. >> amen. >> the idea of suicidal thoughts, people actually attempted suicide multiple times. that's something you heard from a lot of people going through exodus. >> i don't think the numbers are quantitifiable the people who have gone through these programs. but so many of the people i encountered said they had entertained suicidal thoughts. because when you are told from a young age that you are a sinner,
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for doing nothing but having same sex attraction, and you go through these programs, you try and you try and you can't change, what is your purpose? what are you here for? so a lot of the people that i've encountered said they've definitely thought about suicide. >> allen chambers spoke to i guess it was i guess last night to a grouping from exodus international. >> the annual conference is going on right now and he announced exodus was going to be shutting down last night. >> so let's play some of that. >> i believe we've come to a time in the church when it's time to lay our weapons down. we fought the culture and we've lost, but i think we've lost for a good reason. because it's time for peace. we are the culture. culture doesn't exist without people. good doesn't want us to fight
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people any more. >> and again, i'm not clear exactly where he goes now, where the organization goes now. it is officially shutting its doors. it sounds like he feels he is shutting because he lost a culture war. >> he does say we lost the culture war. when you think about it, gay rooi rights, the sifl supreme court be decide on proposition 8 in california i think anderson and the board of, sorry, allen and the board of exodus started to think, well, what side do we want to be on, on this civil rights issue? >> it's interesting that in one of his statement, he was sake he feels their world view has not been fire to our fellow human beings, to quote him andals has not been biblical. it sounds like he wants some sort of an organization that is more welcoming, whatever that may mean. >> so, allen, i don't know that they can even define what the
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next chapter is going to be for them, but he has mentioned to me that there is a place or there are people who are struggling who may want to remain sell celebate or work on relationships with their spouses even though they have same sex attractions. but, moving forward, they would like to have an organization that's much more inclusive that anyone can come to, he said. >> i look forward to speaking to him tomorrow night. thank you very much, thanks. as i mentioned, allen chambers has agreed to come on the program. we look forward to that. for that, let us know what you think. follow me on twitter@anderson cooper. after nine days of questioning, an all fe pail jury has been chosen to determine george zimmerman's fate. he said he is fine with the jury selection. it has a lot of people talking. also ahead, not just a boughtle, but how to fight for and against for politics in the years to come we'll be right back.
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tonight, the jury has been selected in the george zimmerman trial. five are white and five are black or hispanic all are well. he told the judge he is fine with the decision. >> were you able hear the six members of the jury and the four alternates? >> yes, ma'am. >> is this jury panel acceptable to you? >> yes, your honor. >> all juries of six people not 12, zimmermn, of course, is
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charged with second-degree murder in the triling of trayvon martin. he says he shot the teen ager in self-defense, prosecutors accuse him of unjustly profiling and killing martin. in a statement, martin's family said they expect him to do their duty. opening arguments are scheduled on monday. jean ka sar res joins me now. what do we know of these women? >> first of call, ander zorn, five out of six are mother, two have just come into the area from recent months from living out of state. what's interesting, one juror used to have a concealed weapons permit for a gun, a female did. she doesn't have any morement she doesn't carry her gun any more. her husband still has a concealed weapon permit. the juror from chicago has been arrested. so a lot of diversity. a lot of life experiences. we were all surprised when it was a total female jury.
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>> clearly, they selected these people. so the prosecution and defense seem happy with the jury they got, right? >> they did. the way they did was in order of that individual questioning. that's how they went. there was an african-american male who should have been on the jury the prosecution exercised a preemtory strike. it could be for whatever reason. the defence did not challenge it. then when the prosecution exercised four preemptory spriex for white female the defense actually exercised a constitutional challenge saying you are trying to discriminate based on gender, white women and do you know the defense got two of those jurors back on the final jury. one had said innocent people go to prison, which favours the defense. another had said her daughter said what's a young kid like that out buying candy at that time of night got her on the jury. remember, it was 7:00 in the evening, not real late.
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>> a judge will real whether an expert can testify on a crucial piece of evidence. who is screaming on the 911 tape, tell us about it? >> this is probably the most important piece of evidence in this trial. you hear a voice. it has been described as a death cry, somebody believing they're going to die. prosecutors want to put expert testimony on to say they can't conclusively say, they say based on the science it is trayvon martin t. defense put on really renowned experts saying there is no credibility in these experts and the voice at all t. voice is so far away t. instruments and spectro graph they are useing is outdated. there is no way to tell with any kind of scientific certainty. >> trayvon's mother said she was sure it was her son's voice. jean, we appreciate the update. let's dig doper with mark geragos and joining me is marcia clark, author of "killer
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ambition." marcia, you say you can see both sides want a jury made up of both women? >> there is something in it for both sides when women are involved. from the prosecution's side, women, especially mothers and five of the six are pots, are going to, the hope is they will feel somewhat invested in trayvon martin as someone who could have been their son out there that night. by conversely, from the defense point of view, they like the idea of women, especially bill who have had guns in their lives, in their family. they are more likely to identify with the fear in a neighborhood that has been burglarized and feel like george zimmerman is kind of a protector of there's. so appreciate what he was to trying to do. so women actually have something to give for both sides of this lawsuit at the end of the day, i am not surprised to see it was an all demail jury. >> what do you think? i heard people say most of these five out of six are mom, they might be more sympathetic to trayvon martin. >> right.
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and if they say that, they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. this could not be a better defense jury if you had dreamed of it. the fact that they did, you know, when jean did that package about the constitutional challenge, that's called a wheeler motion. we call it a wheeler motion. it's a motion. basically, they got put back on, two jurors that are prosecution's worst nightmare. remember, the prosecution has to get a unanimous verdict in this case, or a unanimous jury. the defense only has to have woun one holdout. at this point i think the prosecution would be holding on for dear life to try and get one person to vote for them. i think that more importantly than the gender here, is the race comp composition. i think this is a grand slam home run for the defense. >> mark, you also say that jury selection is the most important part of a trial. do you really believe that? >> absolutely. i tried hundreds of cases and i
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can tell you, based on all of those case, the cases were won or lost 99.9% of the time in jury selection. that's why this case, other than mark o'mara falling, fripp tripping, knocking himself out, this is his to lose at this point. >> i brought up the makeup of the jury, does it play one way or the other? does that matter? >> yeah, of course, it always matter, especially in a case like this where race is squarely on the table. in this case the prosecution's theory is george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin and reacted to him and behaved the way he did because he was african-american. so having a white set of jurors, more likely to identify the theory that they're more likely to identify with george zimmerman. that is true. mark is right about. that the race factor alone does play in his favor. i disagree little bit with mark about the mother issue. i think it can play in the
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prosecution's favor, but what worries me the most is the kentucky challenge, that's what mark was referring to, what a prosecutor or defense attorney has excused someone, a number of jurors on a given race and the other side can say, hey, that wasn't fair. it was a race-based excusal. they can put the jurors back on. message can be damaging to the prosecution. not only do those juror know and somehow it was improper to excuse them. the rest of the jury knows, too. so the prosecution starts out with this taint of having doing something proper. the jury knows it. >> that's exactly what's going to happen. >> how long do you see this trial going on for? >> i don't know. i mean, i don't think this is a case where you want it to go on longer or drag it out indefinitely. i think if you are in the defense camp on the case, you want to get this over as quickly as possible. i think it's to the prosecution's advantage to drag
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it out. ideally, so that they can get into some of these alternates that are there. i tell you, i cannot emphasize enough placing two of the jurors who the prosecution who had excused back into that jer -- jerry box, in a case here so racially charged, i can't even imagine what is going through the prosecutor's minds at this point. >> mar geragos, marcia clark, good to have you on. go to cnn.com, there is a lot more there. next the fight over immigration reform, how it may reshape the republican parties. some insight ahead.
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>> more politics now, not only it affects a lot of people and can reshape america's border with mexico, on top of all thats a battle in many ways for the future of the republican party. we are talking about immigration reform. today in the senate, who called for an amendment for 20,000 border agents and completing a 700 mile fence. to beef up a larger reform bill. republicans in the house will support it. however, is a big f. dana bash is here to explain why. it always seems to come back to border security. does it look like this bill. at least as it now stands is tough on border security to get
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more republican support? >> it's certainly tougher. it looks like it could. it's not a question of whether it will pals. it's a question of whether it will pass by a lot of votes. talking to republican sources, they think this beefing up the border security will bring maybe 10 to 12 republican senators who wouldn't have come near it beforehand. the reason why this matters is because supporters say they need maybe up to 70 votes in the senate to give this issue momentum heading into the republican-led house. there it is a big ball game, an next totally -- anecdotally, they seem to be for it. >> how much is it about politics? >> how much do you have? look. it is, of course, everything is about politics, this, in particular, so fascinating. it was dead for five years because this was kind of a third round particularly for republicans. what happened was the 2012 election. mitt romney got 27% of the hispanic vote, plummeted since
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the last republican president george w. bush who got 44% for his re-election and republican leaders looked at the future of the republican party and said, we don't really have one if we continue down the road, because the hispanic vote is getting bigger and bigger. that's why they said we got to deal with immigration reform. the problem is not everybody in the party agrees. a lot of people on the base say it's amnesty no matter how you cut it. i talked to one of the leaders on this, marco rubio. >> i can tell you it's as much a negative as a positive. i respect it. i understand it. by the other token, though, this is about america. this should be helping the united states. if nothing passes, this disaster we have now, that's what will stay in place. >> a negative as much as a positive. is it a risk? >> there are people i agree with on every other issue who are mad at us having gotten involved in this issue. they're distrusting the government will do its part.
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>> a big part of the issue for the republicans is that those who are from more diverse states, those in higher ambition like marco rubio, they are worried about being beaten by democrats w are going to get more hispanic voters. then you have the house, it's very polar rised. you have people from red, red districts. their concern isn't democrats. their concern is getting challenges from the conservatives. i got to tell you, john boehner, the house speaker today, compared immigration reform to obamacare which is a kind of a four-letter word for republicans. that kind of says it all. >> all right, dana, thanks. up next, controversy over a decision sentenced a murderer to death because he may have been sen to the death row because he is an african-american. an incredible moment, a 3-year-old boy born deaf hears for the first time in his life from his death. we will talk to dr. sanjay gupta, the medical break through that made it all possible. hey linda!
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>> welcome back, a texas man has been sentenced to die. he's asked an appeals court to grant him a new sentencing haerl hearing. his appeal supported by
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organization, including a former texas governor and one of the prosecutors two helped convict him. not because there are any doubts that he committed murder, instead, supporters argue buck is on death row because he is african-american. they pointed to testimony from an expert witness. >> reporter: there is no question dwayne buck is guilty of murder. in 1995, he shot and killed two people, including his former girlfriend and wounded his step sister in this houston house. the controversy started after a jury convicted him. that's because during the sentencing phase, former texas prison psychologist walter kehano was asked this question by a prosecutor. quote, you have determined that the race factor, black, increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reason, is that correct? he responded, "yes." and later asking the jury to sentence buck to death rather than life in prison, the prosecutor told the jury, quote, you heard from dr. quijano that
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there was a probably that the man would commit future acts of violence. >> it's so clear the testimony shouldn't have been put before the jury. >> reporter: the attorney working the case, not just any attorney, she was one of the prosecutors. she is now pushing to get dwayne buck a new sentencing hearing. >> the idea that he would be walked to the execution chamber would you tell this simple hearing boggles the mind. it just doesn't make good sense. >> reporter: walter quijano became a lightning rod six years ago when the death sentences were overturned because of his controversial testimony that race is one of 20 factors that can determine if someone is likely to be a future danger to society. all of them were given new sentencing hearings. all were sent back to death row. dwayne buck was denied a new sentencing hearing but is appealing that decision. from jail, campaign buck
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remembers what it was like to hear her testimony . >> he's basically saying because you are black, you need to die. and i felt that was strange because my lawyer didn't say nothing, and nobody else, you know, the prosecutor or the judge, nobody did. it was like it was an every day thing in the courts. >> reporter: other member of the prosecution team says buck doesn't deserve a new sentencing hearing because quijano's testimony has little impact on the jury. wilson noted he was called as an expert witness for the defense and testified the convicted killer should be spared the death penalty. >> was it right? should you ever leak race to why a judgment is reached? no. in buck's case, that itself not what happened. in the cases where it did happen, it was reversed. >> reporter: after days of calling walter quijano, we tracked him down at his clinic. hi, i'm with cnn. we have been trying to get ahold
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of you to talk about your testimony in several death penalty cases. >> sure. >> he invited us in. he said to clear the misconceptions over his testimony. he says over the years, he's received death threats. >> the allegations that, allegations that you are a racist, allegations that are you you are a racist and your testimony is racist, what do you say to that? >> well, it's not true, but, okay, i have never been that type of person who will argue for me. >> reporter: he says his testimony has been misunderstood. he argues that some 20 social factors can be used to determine if won is likely to repeat violent behavior, things like age, sex, socioeconomic background. education, drug use, yes, race. >> they 'ic that one piece of testimony and twists it and makt look like race -- make it look
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like race causes people to make crimes, which is stupid. now, no human being would say such thing. >> reporter: in some of the testimony that i've read, you say race is a factor to whether or not someone will be a future danger. so it comes off as you are saying if someone is black, they're more likely to be dangerous in the future. >> people with guns are more likely to be violent than no guns. it doesn't mean all gun owners are violent. they are simplistically taking this and twisting it. i will show you a quote from a classic textbook in the violence. it say if you do not factor if race, you are not discussing the problem seriously. >> reporter: it's unfair that if are you are a black defendant and you are compared to what a bunch of other black people are doing, ultimately, it's not
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fair, is it? >> it's not fair. but those artists did studies. when you say he is likely to commit another crime because he is male, nobody objects to that. it's just the same as a comparison. >> reporter: brain dwayne buck has one last chance to fight his death penalty sentence. a texas appeals court will decide any day the summer if he gets another shot in the courtroom. >> the federal government time we hear anything from the court is next wednesday. we don't know if there will be a decision. we want to talk to bruce watkins, he jones us from skype and our senior legal analyst, jeff, let me start with you. is there any doubt considering race like this is a violation of this guy's constitutional rights? >> no doubt. this is textbook. when i started looking into this, i had to look at this several times. you think, he didn't say that. but he really did say that.
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>> he continues to say that. >> and john cornyn who is now a senator from texas. he used to be the attorney general, he said that buck and the five others deserved new hearings and the five others got the new hearings, as ed's story said. they were all sentenced to death again. but for some reason they won't give buck a new hearing. it's just completely outrageous. >> you say this is indicative of a deeper point in this countried. >> absolutely. before we talk about what dr. quijano said, which i don't disagree with. he is slapping the justice system in the face with well documented racial disparities that exist all across the country. when i started working on a massive incarceration program with russell simmon, one of the things we brought to light is according to sentencing project, african-american males get sentences 20% longer than white
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males when they commit the same crimes. even though the professor was naive enough to explicitly mention race the reality is that we have been implicitly using race as a factor for a very long time. >> jeff, what they're saying in not granting a new hearing is that this guy was a defense witness and that makes some sort of a difference? >> not. the jury hear what is the injury hears regardless of who is putting forth the witness. the other factor here is texas has an unusual death penalty law in that the issue of future dangerousness is important. unfortunately, that law leads to all sorts of quackery. the legal system has a hard enough time telling people, determining what happened in the past. the idea that you can put a psychologist on and predict future dangerousness is just absurd. >> it's like that movie about future crime, you are fighting future crime. >> exactly. and quijano is not the only
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psychologist who has got finance trouble here. there was a famous dr. death who gave similarly ridiculous testimony. but the whole idea of psychologists telling juries they can predict who is dangerous is fraudulent in and of itself. >> the minority report. >> the minority report f. this case isn't reheard, what kind of a message do you think that sends african-americans in texas and the rest of the country? >> well, i think when you look at the justice system across the country, especially in texas, we have to realize that prisons have become the new slave plantations. when you look at the racial dispar tis, particularly with the war on drug, we know that african-american, particularly black men are an endangered species because of the industrial complex. families have been destroyed. i do cases every single day. i read about an entire family sent to prison. so all the children grew up without parents.
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so what we have to understand is our desire to hold up the law over simply doing the right thing is really destroying the fabric of our country. we're setting our chin up for a dismal future when we decide that incarcerating people is more important than actually making our country safer and better in the long run. >> so, jeff, i mean, he could get, if he got a new sentencing hearing, that still he could be sentenced to death. >> that's exactly what happened with the other five. >> right. so nobody is arguing he should go home. >> go home. >> right. it's a question of he should be sentenced without race in mind? >> no, it just so happens, as i understand it, buck has been an absolutely model prisoner. he has ministered to other inmates on death row. there does seem to be a chance that a jury informed of that would take that into consideration and maybe not sentence him to death, but there is no chance that a jury could say he's not guilty, he can go home. would not be on the table in this hearing. >> bruce watkins, it's good to
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>> most of us don't remember when we heard the first sound. it's impossible. we were in the womb a. 3-year-old boy grayson clamp's first sound was captured on video. >> dadly loves you. dadly loves you. >> yes. he hears. >> can you hear daddy? >> it's an incredible moment, obviously, for grayson and his family. he was born without the nerves to process without sound. he has an auditory brain stem implant. a device studied in clinical trial. he had the surgery if april in north carolina. joining us is our chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta. it's incredible to see his face light up. >> i can't stop watching this video. it's amazing.
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let me show you the way this works. again, it is remarkable. we're working at a true medical first here. as you pointed out, anderson, the nerve that goes from his ear to his brain stem, that's what he doesn't have. that's a specific hearing loss. they're trying to do is recreate part of his nervous system. let me show you on the brain model. this is the right side of the brain. this, you see the microphone that's sort of sitting around his ear. that takes sound, sort of processes it, distills it to various frequency, anderson, literally, there is a wire that goes straight to his brain stem the cochlear. nuclei. it takes that sound and shuttles it through the brian, allowing him to have that reaction there. one of total surprise, what is that as he heard his dad's voice for the first time. >> this is different than the cochlear implant. >> it is, you have something
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defective in your ener ear. but the nerve that goes from your inner ear for the your brain the brain stem, that's working. so you don't need to replace that. in a very small percentage of people, including grayson, they don't have the nerve at all. it's a much more difficult problem in some ways to tackle. but the way they tackled was to essentially create a part of his nervous system. it's an unbelievably remarkable thing. >> watching the whole video. he seemed confused or thrown by it. i can't imagine to live that many years of your life without hearing any sound and then all of a sudden hearing sound, do the doctors know how much he can hear and exactly what he hears? >> it's a great question. and it's difficult to know. we ask him him the same thing. they say they know he is sound aware. he is clearly hearing sounds. how much he can actually process of that sound and you know recognize of his language, that's harder to tell. one anecdote they share with me
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is he seems to love music. when he hears music, he will go officer turn it louder. he seems to enjoy that. he's 3-years-old. we talk about this idea your intran pretty plastic at that age. so he is probably going to grow and learn very rapidly what to make of these sounds and transmit them no something useful for him. >> will he be able to speak at some point in. >> that's what they say. again, we asked the same thing. they believe he will be able to hear the lauren, understand it and be able to express himself through spoken language as well. the doctors seem pretty convinced of this i should point out, this is the first time it has been done on a kid in this country. it has been done on adults before. again, kids' brains are developing. it's unclear when it will be able adapt to specifically. the doctors seem very, very optimistic he is going to be able do that. >> so this is a testing, it will be available to anybody with his condition? >> yeah. right now, it's very much in
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testing phase. he's the first child in america to have this done. it's been approved for ten children, five of whom don't have that nerve at all the nerve going from the ear to the brain. five who had the nerve, but the nerve was traumatized in some way, damaged. so it's not useful. you know, this seems to be working so far with grayson. he's sort of the first patient. but if it continues to work, that itself the goal to make it much more reid widely available. >> we wish him the best. sanjay, thanks. >> thank you, annerson. >> that's so cool. grayson's parents will be on tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. we'll be right back. a mother sees the light... a son explores new worlds... and a father finds himself... face to face with himself... only smoother... epic shaves...
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>> this is the time of year the pomp and circumstance is over. a lot of college students graduate. they want to get a foot in the world. they have a tough fight into the competitive world of internships. >> reporter: rushing through the early traffic and hurrying to their deck, dana and barry are honing their talents and hoping to prove their worth during a summer internship at the big pub
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public relationships firm ogilvy. they know by being here, they have beaten the odds. >> they tell us almost 500 people applied for ten spots. it was competitive. >> we feel lucky to have been offered a position. >> this will not be your average intern subpoena. >> reporter: the new movie "the internship" pokes fun at adults stepping up the competition in this arena. it's no joke. with understand the purview of the ambitious few, internships are being aggressively sought by grown-ups looking for career changes and younger and younger students, too. according to website intern match. >> one of the things we noted in our report is that 50% of the students that do an internship are completing it by the end of their sophomore year. this isn't something that juniors and seniors are doing. it's happening earlier, companies are recruiting earlier to try to stay a step ahead. >> reporter: the goals for many, make contact, open doors, spin that person isship into
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